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[This started out as a comment in [livejournal.com profile] cangetmad's journal, but it spiralled out of control so I moved it here.]

The gendering of children's clothing is a big elephant-in-the-corner.

Gender-aware parents, in my experience (yes, that's limited, and yes, "gender-aware parents" is a fairly crude categorisation), like to aim for "gender-neutral" colours and styles. This is relatively unproblematic for boys, but because female=marked, it generally means that girls dressed thus are assumed to be male.0 You're responsible for labelling your girl, in other words, so that the unwary bystander is not confused.

And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Both the traditional "boy" stuff and the "gender neutral" stuff are most likely to be read as male; only the "girl" stuff is unerringly read as female. The iconography of "boy" stuff includes vehicles, sports, war, fierce animals (plus dinosaurs and monsters), traditionally masculine professions (firefighter, driver of large vehicle, construction worker), rough or transgressive behaviour (the pirate/burglar axis). The iconography of "gender-neutral" stuff overlaps with the "boy" stuff but also includes houses, trees, fruit, toys, school, zoo and farm animals, and not-so-fierce animals like mice and dogs (cats are for girls). The iconography of "girl" stuff (or so I've gathered - and do please tell me what I'm leaving out) includes flowers, baby or toy animals, princesses, fairies, ballerinas, sexual precociousness, emotional instability, untramelled consumerism, and the state of being the property of one's father.1 I also reckon that the clothes themselves are more of a thing in the "girl" space: they follow adult fashion and style, and they have frills and trimmings. Some "boy" clothes have interesting pockets or lift-up-and-see flaps, but that's not the same thing. The message is that "girl" clothes are "decorative" in a way that the rest are not. (Catering to the male gaze from day 1.)

Let's just pause for a second or two to think about the implications of these iconographic distinctions for how we train our children to see themselves in the world.

OK, got that? Good. We move on.

Non-gender-aware parents broadly follow the rules.

Gender-aware parents of boys range over the "boy" and "gender-neutral" spaces, with perhaps an occasional foray into "girl" if they're particularly motivated. I've yet to meet a boy whose parents dressed him in pink frills - and I'm confident that you understand, without my attempting to articulate it in my ongoing sleep-deprived state, why that's so. Most of them, I'm pretty sure, also avoid the "war" end of "boy" space.

Gender-aware parents of girls inevitably inhabit the "girl" space, unless they steadfastly refuse all gifts and hand-me-downs. They are also free to choose "gender-neutral" and "boy" clothes, but only if they're prepared to negotiate people's assumptions that their daughter is male. The only other option is to try to steer a course through "girl" space that avoids the "daddy's little princess" T-shirts and the pink bikinis. (Bikinis. For toddlers. I mean ... gah.) That (plus "gender-neutral") is what I think I'll aim for if I have a daughter. I'm uncomfortable with the outright rejection of things female, for reasons that should be obvious. But as far as I can tell, it's not always easy to find "girl" clothes that aren't emblazoned with the ick. (Oh, look. Dressing a girl is harder work than dressing a boy if you're at all into challenging stereotypes. Colour me gobsmacked.)

[ETA (an aside): Another little kink in the story is that from what I've seen, there tend to be more "girl" clothes for sale than "boy" clothes - or perhaps it's just that they're more prominently and imaginatively displayed. So we have, for girls, a restricted range of messages but a super-abundant supply. Way to channel future women into the roles that consumer society wants them to play.]

But isn't it COMPLETELY INSANE that dressing one's child in gender-appropriate clothes should be this problematic? Isn't it UTTERLY WACKED-OUT that a significant proportion of clothes designed for little girls carry messages that range from embarrassing to nauseating? Isn't it interesting that here as elsewhere, pretty much anyone who thinks about the issues wants to move out of the socially prescribed "female" space and into the "neutral/male" space as quickly as possible, and that females who venture into supposedly "neutral" territory are likely to be interacted with as though they were male?2

There's nothing inherently undesirable about the kittens, flowers, metallic textiles, and various shades of pink and purple that mark clothing out as "girl". Dressing your girl in orange denim dungarees and a white cotton T-shirt with dinosaurs on the sleeves is not inherently more responsible than dressing your boy in a fairisle twinset in heathery shades, stripy tights and a navy A-line knee-length needlecord skirt. And yet the latter is (all but) unthinkable, while the former is (more or less) unremarkable.

The Oyster's wardrobe, predictably, is pretty exclusively "boy" or "gender-neutral". The only "girl" clothes he has are some new socks from H&M: he's worn the plum and the turquoise but not the pale pink yet. (Non-clothing is different: he has several pink/purple/flowery/kitteny plates and cups, and two dolls (which he's just beginning to interact with now), and I'm vaguely on the lookout for a teaset.)

I can't really see myself greatly expanding his collection of "girl" clothes.3 And that, in a way, frustrates me. No, I am not going to moan about how my SON is being DISCRMINATED AGAINST OH EM GEE. But there's certainly a sense in which I do feel restricted by social expectations of his gender. I mean, I happen to like pink and purple, and I think some shades would look good on him. (He hasn't expressed much of a colour preference, FWIW, apart from definitely liking red.) Also, [livejournal.com profile] niallm and I are both besotted with him, and if we were into "angel" as a concept, then "daddy's little angel" wouldn't be an entirely inappropriate T-shirt message. Um. Apart from the possession thing, obviously. (Incidentally, aren't angels sexless? How did they become female in the children's clothes market?)

All of which suggests to me that we're probably socialising him in ways that may cause him difficulty later on when he encounters the hard-man stereotypes. Ho hum. You can't win. I am both disconcerted and (oddly) comforted by the thought that his immediate family provides only one component in his socialisation. And in the end, he'll have to navigate his own route through the gender jungle.

0 [livejournal.com profile] ailbhe's daughter is in the habit of referring to herself as "boy" - as in, "boy get down now", presumably because so many other people do.

1 These last are (as you can appreciate) the ones that really cause me to incandesce. [livejournal.com profile] ailbhe recently recounted seeing two sets of vests in Primark: the boys' ones said things like "astronaut", "pirate", "fireman" and so on, while the girls' ones said things like "shopaholic" and "drama queen".

2 [livejournal.com profile] cangetmad, you still on for starting that feminist baby-clothes business?

3 And isn't it also curious that his wardrobe appears to be ENTIRELY my domain, and not [livejournal.com profile] niallm's at all?

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 10:37 am (UTC)
ailbhe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ailbhe
I have to try very hard not to correct the "boy" assumption. I do it sometimes, because it annopys me that people assume a clever, hard-playing, outgoing, sensibly-dressed child MUST be a boy, and giving them reason to pause and think next time might bo a Good Feminist Thing, and other times I don't because I'm not sure why I mind when people get it wrong.

I don't like most pink, so I dress Linnea in dresses - not pink ones if I can manage it - to establish that femme is not bad. I do also feel terribly relieved that I won't need to make any decisions about gender assumptions all day.

She has girly shoes now her feet are small enough. Girls' H fittings are narrower than boy's H fittings. *seethe*.

I did once consciously NOT correct someone who thought she was a boy. She was playing on a pink bike in the Early Learning Centre and a girl in a pink dress came up and said "You can't play on that, that's for girls!" so all I said was "Pink isn't just for girls, why don't you play on the blue one over there?" and felt terrible for letting someone think she was a boy. My *first* instinct was to say "It's ok, she IS a girl." Oh, the shame!

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com
I just hate getting to the point where someone I've been talking to for a couple of minutes will say "what's his name?" and I'll have to stop, back up, correct, deal with apologies and/or minor aggression about why she's dressed like that, then. Ugh. Actually, have you had people treat Linnea's clothing like it's some kind of code when you "reveal" her femaleness? Often people will pick up on Gnome's pink shoes, or the heart-shaped design on her red coat, and say "oh, of course, the X". I haven't yet responded, "no, actually, it's because she was born with female genitalia that we're treating her as female until she's old enough to express her own preference", but I am always tempted.

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 11:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
Yes, I've had people examine her clothes - she now has navy blue shoes with little flowers on, for example - but all I want to respond with, in general, is a whimper.

I have told people outright that they assumed she was a boy because she's not wearing any pink, though.

It's all so *tiring*. Dispiriting. Miserable. Infuriating, which feeds back to tiring.

And oh god what will I do if the tadpole is a boy? How can I raise an equal-opportunities boy? I have no idea how to go about it. I can't just dress him in girls' clothes, because they're almost all so hideous that I won't dress *anyone* in them. Praps I'll buy him a vest that says "shopaholic" or "supermodel".

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radegund.livejournal.com
no, actually, it's because she was born with female genitalia that we're treating her as female until she's old enough to express her own preference"

Sweet! I dare you! :-)

My little brother used to get mistaken for a girl quite often when he was maybe 3, 4, 5, because my parents weren't organised enough to keep his hair short. As far as I remember, he would've mostly been dressed from the "gender-neutral" range. This makes me think that at least some of the "default boy" thing may have to do with short hair. Which is just as annoying, perhaps, but rather simpler to solve later on...

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barsine.livejournal.com
My sister had a bob until she got her hair cut short at about age 10. People still knew she was a girl, I suppose because she has a feminine face and long, sweeping eyelashes, UNTIL she fell out of a bunk bed on a ship and gave herself a terrible black eye. Suddenly everyone thought she was a boy. So looking like you fight or play contact sports seems to be another 'boy' signifier!

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com
Yes, it's interesting, isn't it? Boys get lots of colours, but only one haircut. Now Gnome's developing the famous bob, we'll see whether that helps attribution accuracy.

And, ooh, if I ever do use that line, I'll be sure to let you know.

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biascut.livejournal.com
Heh - and I have the opposite problem of thinking that at some stage I'm going to have to ask what their name is, and wondering what pronoun to go with. If at all possible, I resort to, "What's your name, then?"

And this is where German rules, because it's perfectly acceptable to say "What's its name?" because it's das Baby. I've always wondered whether there's a significant difference in perception of gender in a language where everyone can be referred to as neuter for the first two years of their life.

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com
But it's so easy to say, "What's your name, then?" that I really don't see why anybody would attribute gender to a baby they hadn't been told about!

Re: Going off on a tangent....

Date: 2006-03-10 09:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
My fambly and other animals had great trouble with my referring to internal babies as "it". When they are my own babies. They prefer to say "he or she" every time. Augh.

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