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I was ringing drain-clearing companies yesterday to talk about an ongoing problem we have, when I stumbled into the following little cesspit:

The phone at [company] was answered by a man with a large, gentle, gravelly voice, who responded to my initial query by asking for my name, address and phone number. Feeling a little crowded, I explained that I was just making preliminary enquiries and was hoping to get a rough price over the phone. He told me their rates and procedures happily enough. So far so good, I thought, and began to set aside my first impression. I next mentioned that the company advertises itself as a member of the National Guild of Master Craftsmen, and asked what that involved. Inspections, said he, and gave a vague account of men coming to look at their work and talk to their customers. I was almost warming to him by now: he was so clearly untainted by Celtic-Tiger rhetoric. But then, apparently thinking that he had found a kindred spirit, he continued: "Another thing about us, now, we will not take on foreigners. Our men are ... well, they're not old, but they'd be in their forties. Reliable, you know?"

To which I had nothing to say. I should, of course, have said something along the lines of, "Excuse me, I'll stop you there, because I have no intention of giving my business to a company that admits to operating a racist, ageist hiring policy - good bye", but words failed me. I mumbled something about maybe getting back to him and hung up.

Looking back on it, I wouldn't be surprised if this man were (e.g.) the proprietor's retired father, minding the phone over lunch. But I mean, seriously, what sort of idiot would claim racism and ageism as company policy in 21st-century Europe? (That's even leaving aside the inherent sexism of an industry where "our men" is the unquestioned default.) And does anyone know off the top of their head where I should report them, if I can muster the time to write the letter?

(I was tempted to call this post "Ethnic Cleansing", but ... no, I am apparently not quite that crass.)

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Date: 2006-06-01 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iuil.livejournal.com
www.equalitytribunal.ie might be a good place to start.

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Date: 2006-06-01 01:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] glitzfrau.livejournal.com
Holy. Fucking. Jesus. I don't know where you'd go. Jesus.

By take on, he wasn't also refusing to work for foreigners, was he? Not that, you know, he needed more to damn him. That is horrendous.

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Date: 2006-06-01 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leedy.livejournal.com
Good god, that's atrocious.

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Date: 2006-06-01 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] socmot.livejournal.com
Call again, try and have the information repeated...and record it. Then it's off to the equality tribunal or the like.

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Date: 2006-06-01 01:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
Well, I'd start with the National Guild of Master Craftsmen, and whatever Equal Opportunity gang the Irish employment law people listen to.

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Date: 2006-06-01 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mollydot.livejournal.com
Funnily enough, I keep hearing how great Polish workmen are. He's not just being morally wrong, he might also being keeping the quality of the company down.

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Date: 2006-06-01 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
The Polish guy who delivers my mother's groceries is about seventeen thousand times more helpful and reliable than his Irish predecessors. FWIW. She was very pleased when he was made legal :)

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Date: 2006-06-01 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sshi.livejournal.com
I've heard this also - one of my colleagues is having a Georgian house renovated and is delighted woth the fact that her Polish builders actually turn up on time, work efficiently and well and only have a reasonable number of coffee breaks.

Now why anyone would want to not employ these guys, particularly if it's a general trait of Poles, is totally beyond me (well, okay, I know it's a form of racism, but youknowwhatImean).

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Date: 2006-06-01 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mollydot.livejournal.com
And not just in Ireland. I've also come across in a book written by an American who was renovating a house in Italy.

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Date: 2006-06-01 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tenderhooligan.livejournal.com
Yes. Aside from the fact that that 'policy' is disgusting, yer man is a Certain Thick.

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Date: 2006-06-02 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] micheinnz.livejournal.com
Good god, I'd like to see him try to get away with that in New Zealand! We have a Race Relations Conciliator, and I'd have been on the phone to their office so fast the idiot's head would fucking spin.

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